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Brian  Sims: War Dead

My research also gives BQMS Jack Alderson as being lost of the S.S.Scillin. Does anyone know his family?

 

                                   

Joanne: Mary Ann Alderson 1823 Barnard Castle

Hi there,
 
My name is Joanne and have been researching my tree for many time consuming hours. Came across your site by chance.  My ancestors are as follows
 
Mary Ann Alderson 1823 from Barnard Castle
Her father William 1793 Barnard Castle (I think) wife called Ann??
I think the line goes as follows but would like this confirmed if possible
here goes:
 
I would be grateful if you have any info or confirmation on the above

Posted 5 Sept 2007

Albert Alderson: Mary Ann Alderson 1823 Barnard Castle

Hi Joanne,

I can confirm immediately part of your line as:

I will check out the other parts and get back to you.

Posted 5 Sept 2007

                                   

Sharon: Joseph and Mary Close Alderson

Looking for information on this family:

Joseph Alderson married Mary Close Sept. o9, 1824 at Kirkby Stephen
Children:
Ann m. James Rucroft
Joseph
Christopher m. Eleanor Nickolson (my gggrandfather)
Mary Elizabeth
James m. Elizabeth Metcalfe
William
I hope someone can help. Thanks, Sharon

                                   

Viola: George Alderson and Margaret Sparks Ward

Would like to know the father of George Alderson
born in 1845 and married to Margaret Sparks Ward (widow)
Viola

                                   

Heather Branch: Alderson Pratt

Hello everyone
I have an Elizabeth Alderson born c1788 (?born in Muker) who married John Pratt born c1790 (? born in Muker).
Their Son Anthony Pratt born c1826 married Mary Ann Alderson born c1825 ( born ? in Healaw). Mary Anns parents were James Alderson c1806 and Mary Emerson c1806 ( ? born in Grinton)
I would be grateful for any information anyone has about these people also I would like to know if Elizabeth and Mary Ann were related other than mother-in-law & daughter-in-law.
Thankyou.
Heather

Albert Alderson: Alderson Pratt

Hi Heather,

What a brilliant question. I wish I had a brilliant answer, but unfortunately not.

The AFHS has information about Elizabeth and three families of ancestors. The problem is John. There is information about him and his family with Elizabeth. There is no clear record of his ancestry, which makes it rather difficult to answer your query.

There is one family from Arkengarthdale to which he might belong. However, the ancestry of that family has not yet been identified.

Because there are so many ALDERSONs with the same names in Swaledale and Arkengarthdale at the same date, it is difficult to know which is which. It is often more a case of which John it cannot be, rather than which one it actually is!

Are you a member of the AFHS? If so we could share what information is available on these families to see if we can help progrees your query. We can only release details from our database to members for copyright reasons.

Elizabeth' sister Jane married married James PRATT on 28 Jun 1808 in Muker. Do you know if this James was related to John PRATT?

Heather Branch: Alderson Pratt

Hi Albert
thanks for the reply but sorry for the delay work and all that.
Sorry I have no further info mainly because there are so many alderson and pratts in the area I have really come to a full stop( a very frustrating full stop). however at least I have a sister of elizabeths to work on now.
When you ask if I am a member I have a password etc , is that what you mean? sorry if I'm being a bit thick.
thanks again
Heather

Albert Alderson: Alderson Pratt

Hi Heather,

I was asking if you were a member of the Alderson Family History Society. This is not the same as being a member of the AFHS Forum. Members of the AFHS pay a yearly subscription, receive a number of copies of the Newsletter each year, can attend AFHS meetings and outings, and can get information about their families from the AFHS Database. Information from the AFHS database is not available to those who are members only of the AFHS Forum. Membership of the AFHS Forum is free.

Don't give up hope on John. New discoveries are constantly being made by ALDERSON researchers.

                                   

Albert Alderson: Killed for a Penny

I have found a story at
http://www.prestonlancs.com/pages/articles/New-Year-Quarrel-Over-A-Victorian-Penny.html.

This tells of the killing of John ALDERSON of Preston, Lancs on 1st Jan 1839. John was 30 and left a wife and three children.

Does anyone know anything about John and his family?

                                   

Sehutchi: Appleton Wiske Aldersons

Hi, I am a descendant of the Alderson family. The information I have so far is mainly based around Appleton Wiske in North Yorkshire. Presently I have several generation in my tree going back to William Alderson born in that area in approx 1768 and married to Elizabeth Smith. His father was George born around 1733 (married Dorothy Grisewood) and then his father is possibly John whose birthdate/marriage I do not have. Any further info on John would be great, as I am wondering where our family originally came from before farming in the Appleton Wiske area.

Ross: Appleton Wiske Aldersons

Hi
I am also currently researching this branch of the Alderson tree. I have got as far back as William as well. I am a direct descendant of the Alderson's on another branch, related by marriage to the Appleton Alderson's. My Ggrand mother, Cicely Watson of Welbury, married Anthony Alderson of Darlington. He is the son of William (m Alice Simpson) of Darlington, Durham son of Thomas and Jane Green(?). That's about as far as I've got.

Cheers
Ross, NZ

 

Albert Alderson: Appleton Wiske Aldersons

Hi,

The AFHS has this family’s ancestry back to John who married Elizabeth DAVISON in the 1680s. This indicates that John was born no later than the 1660s. All their records associate this family with Appleton Wiske. Members can get the full detail.

Don’t forget that the spelling of the ALDERSON name was very variable at that time (see http://www.stoneu3a.org/Spelling%20ALDERSON.htm). You might make some progress looking for AUTHERSON.

I know that in some places records of taxation from the Civil War and Cromwell’s Commonwealth still exist. Where they do, the records are very detailed. If they exist for Appleton Wiske, they might give good information on who John’s family were.

Albert Alderson: Appleton Wiske Aldersons

Hi,

The AFHS has it that Thomas is descended for Richard and Mary of Barnard Castle, County Durham. They must have married c1715 but the record has not been identified. This would suggest that Richard was born no later than the 1690s.

                                   

Sandy: Miners Arms (Cat Hole Inn) Keld

Does anyone have any information on the Aldersons who ran the Miner's Arms (Cat Hole Inn) in Keld between 1851-1861. The inkeeper is Thomas Alderson and he is married to a Mary, there is a Grace Metcalfe living with them as a servant on 1851 census. Does anyone know if they were there in 1841 (can't seem to find them on census though still trying) or which family this Thomas came from and if he had any children.

Many thanks, Sandy

Albert Alderson: Miners Arms (Cat Hole Inn) Keld

Hi Sandy,

Thomas and Mary (nee FAWCETT) appear as the innkeepers at the Miners Arms in the 1841, 1851 and 1861 censuses. Thomas died in 1867. Mary appears in the 1871 and 1881 censuses, being a retired innkeeper in the latter. Mary died in 1883. It appears that they had no children.

Sandy: Miners Arms (Cat Hole Inn) Keld

Thanks, I don't think they are the family I am looking for, but it's good to cross them off my list, I thought that my Thomas Alderson may just have married again but Yvonne reckons its a different family to mine. However, I now have another query which I will put up as a post.

Sandy

                                   

ACooke: Margaret Alderson/John Titley

My gggrandfather, Samuel Cartwright married Elizabeth Titley, daughter of John Titley and Margaret Alderson. John Titley and Margaret Alderson married in 1838 in Newton, Montgomeryshire, Wales. He was born abt 1812 and Margaret was born in 1807.

By the 1851 census, Elizabeth was 13 (they were late starters for those days) and were living in Wolverhampton, Staffordshire. In the 1841 census they were living in Pontesbury, Shropshire, where Elizabeth was born.

I would like to find Margaret's parents etc. Can anyone help
.

Albert Alderson: Margaret Alderson/John Titley

Hi,

This family line is well-researched by the AFHS, with many descendants alive today. Currently the line goes back to the marriage of Wiliam ALDERSON and Elizabeth MORGANS in 1718 at Llangurig, Montgomery. Any earlier information would be of great interest to many people interested in how the ALDERSONs came to be in Wales.


                                   

Gerald Hunt: Swaledale miners in Wisconin, USA

Hi Albert,
I have just returned to my home in Georgetown, Ontario, Canada, from Muker upper Swaledale, England. I visited the lead mines of Gunnerside Gill, and the villages and moors where I spent my early years.

My connection to the Alderson family is :
Jane Hunt, b Dec 3 1796, Melbecks, Grinton Parish, NRY, married Anthony Cottingham March 26, 1816, Low Row, Grinton, NRY. He was the son of Joseph Cottingham and Jane Alderson.

Jane Hunt was a direct descendant of Thomas Hunt b abt 1617 in Ingelby Greenhow, Yorkshire , England. I am also.

I am interested in the exodus of Swaledale lead miners in 1849
to Benton, Wisconsin. USA.
Regards, Gerald Hunt

Nancy Vance: Swaledale miners in Wisconin, USA

I saw that Gerald Hunt had asked for info on his line that went to Wisconsin. I can fill in a great deal for him, if he would like to contact me.

[Gerald: Please email webmaster@afhs.org and Nancy's email will be sent to you.

 

 

                                   

Gerald Haselden: Aldersons in Egypt

I am trying to find out whether Barbara Alderson who lived in Egypt before 1956 and who was friendly with my uncle Sidney Haselden, was related to George Beeton Alderson of Ramleh near Alexandria.
Gerald Haselden

Albert Alderson: Aldersons in Egypt

The only Barbara we have connected to this family is Barbara Joy ALDERSON (nee ALLEN). She married Charles Thomas ALDERSON son of George Beeton ALDERSON in India (1937). We have nothing to indicate that she did or did not live in Egypt.

We would be very pleased to have any information you have about the Barbara ALDERSON who lived in Egypt. When was she there? Where did she live? Did she have a husband and/or other family? What did she do? And so on.

                                   

Sandy: Thomas Alderson/Ann Rukin of Thorns

Hi everyone, I am still trying to find out information about my great grandfather Thomas Alderson who married Ann Rukin (both neighbours from Thorns) in 1851. She died in 1901 and her daughter Ann married a Thomas Metcalf in 1861 and another dtr. Margaret (b.1861) married another Rukin, this times a James. Thomas was a lead miner and I know the family all lived at various times in Thorns, Aygill and across the border in Stainmore.

Thomas's father, another Thomas, married an Anne Fawcett in 1824. He apparently was a schoolmaster at Angram although I have never been able to verify this. When he married one of his witnesses was a William Alderson. So I have two objectives at the moment - 1) does anyone have Ann Rukin's family in their tree and know any more about the Rukins who lived in Thorns and 2) does anyone know anything about Thomas who married Anne Fawcett and where he might come from. He apparently died at the age of 41 in 1841 but this has not helped me so far.
 

Susan: Thomas Alderson/Ann Rukin of Thorns

Hi Sandy
I don't know anything I'm afraid, but couldn't resist a little look at the IGI. Your Thomas married Ann in Muker as you must know, and there are 2 Thomas Aldersons christened in Muker in 1799 in Muker. Thomas and Ann also have a child baptised Thomas in Muker, so it looks like Muker is the area to concentrate on, probably with another Thomas in the previous generation.(you've probably done all this, sorry!) Keep trying, best of luck.
Susan

Sandy: Thomas Alderson/Ann Rukin of Thorns

Thanks Sue but I know about both of them and neither are, as far as I can prove, anything to do with the Thomas I seek. So I will just keep slogging along until one day I might unlock the door.

                                   

Sehutchi: Appleton Wiske

I am a descendant of Aldersons who farmed at Appleton Wiske and I have a lot of information on them, but am now stuck at John who had a son, Thomas born in 1702. The rest of the family descend from John but I am wondering who Johns wife was and where they came from before then. I can find Aldersons in many nearby places possibly going up towards the Dales but can't, as yet, connect John in with them. Any help appreciated!

Albert Alderson: Appleton Wiske

Hi,

You might think of variations on the ALDERSON name. I wrote an article 'Spelling ALDERSON'.

Name spellings were very fluid around the time you are researching. It is probably worth your while to look at AUTHERSON records. I think John's wife was called Elizabeth from wills that I have seen excerpts from.

John must have been born around the time of the English Civil War. Church records were not always well kept at that time. I have wondered if there are any records existing from the Cromwellian period for North Yorkshire. Such taxation records might show up details of families living there then.

I'm afraid the Civil War records are not my strong suit.

Sehutchi: Appleton Wiske

Thanks very much - any information is useful and gives me further places to look. It seems that the Alderson families mostly come from the Yorkshire dales and I have always assumed that I need to look to villages leading me that way.

                                   

Susan: Monumental inscriptions

Hi
As a new member and recent researcher into this part of my family, could anyone tell me if there is online access/ postal access to information about monumental inscriptions/positions of graves for Aldersons in Romaldkirk and nearby villages in Co Durham or former N.Yorks. On a flying visit I quickly found three impressively legible headstones, and I am sure there must be plenty more.
Thanks
Susan
(apparently from the line of Lancelot of Thringarth, 1600's)

Albert Alderson: Monumental inscriptions

Hi Susan,

I have been unable to find any general transcription of Romaldkirk MIs on the web. However I did visit Romaldkirk on holiday a few years ago and saw the memorials you write about. I only found three. I copied the inscriptions as follows:

Elizabeth Alderson of Gillfield who died 14 Sep 1836 aged 57 years [bc 1779]
Also to the memory of Christopher Alderson, late of Gillfield in the Parish of Romaldkirk, farmer, husband of the above named Elizabeth Alderson, who departed this life on the 6th day of Feb 1856 aged 82 years [bc 1774]

Thomas Alderson of Naby who died 9 mar 1836 aged 50 years [bc 1786]
Also Mary his wife died 28 Nov 1828 aged 50 years [bc 1778]
And Mary their daughter died 1 Jan 1828 aged 1 year [bc 1827]
Also Ellen daughter of Thomas and Hannah Alderson who died 18 May 1859 aged 25 years [bc 1824]
Also Hannah wife of the above Thomas who died of Cotherstone 29 Oct 1885, aged 81 [bc 1804]

George Alderson late of Briscoe who died at Cotherstone 3 Aug 1856 aged 74 years [bc 1782]
Also Hannah his wife who died 3 mar 1860 aged 71 years [bc 1789]
Also Margaret Alderson, sister of George, who died of Cotherstone 26 Sep 1863 aged 74 years [bc 1789]

Which ALDERSON families are you researching?

Susan: Monumental inscriptions

Hi Albert
Thank you for your notes. Strangely, the graves I found were three different ones from yours, but it was quite a crowded graveyard.
I took photos but didn't have time to write notes as I was with others.
From what I can read:
1. Sacred to the memory of Christopher Alderson who departed this life Nov 28th 1795 aged 72 years (bc 1723)
Also Agness Alderson his wife who departed this life February 6th 1810 aged 77 years (bc 1733)
Also of John Alderson their son who departed this life April 19th 1826 aged 65 years (bc 1761)

2. In memory of Henry, elder son of Philip and Martha Alderson who departed this life November 19th 1842 aged 3? years (bc 1839)
Also John their son who departed this life November 21st 1842 aged 1 year.
Also Philip their son who died March 11th 1853 aged 9 years
Also of the above named Philip Alderson who died February 23rd 1873 aged 62? years.
Also of Martha, wife of the above who died Aug 13th 18?2 aged 71 years.

3. In memory of ??ane the wife of Henry Alderson. Died Jany 22nd 1742 aged 60 years.
Henry Alderson died ?y 26th 1764? aged 74 years.
And some more not legible on my photo.

This last grave is the one I think I have in my direct line - Henry of Thringarth and Jane of Lune. The details are on the forms I received when I joined the AFHS, although the exact dates on the graves are a little different. I am researching the ancestors of Betty Alderson, daughter of Isaac Alderson and Margaret (Wright) of Grassholme.
I hope the graves I found are helpful to someone!
I shall visit Romaldkirk again and have an organized search - it's a beautiful place and well worth a visit anyway.
Thanks Albert
Susan

Albert Alderson: Monumental inscriptions

Hi Susan,

Thanks for the notes.

I also have now discovered the value of (digital) cameras for recording MIs. My foray in Romaldkirk cemetary was hampered by paper & pencil, and a considerable number of weeds.

Looking forward to the results of your next visit.

 

Susan: Monumental inscriptions

Susan, the 3rd MI you mention reads as follows

'In memory of Jane wife of Henry Alderson who died 22 Jan 1742 aged 60yrs. Henry Alderson died 26 Sep 1764 aged 74.
William their son died 11 sep 1773 aged 57.
Ann daughter of John and Phillis Sowerby died 13 Apr 1773 aged 16 yrs.'

I believe Ann was Henry and Jane's Granddaughter.
This is taken from the MI transcription held in Middlesbrough Reference Library

Albert Alderson: Monumental inscriptions

Yes, correct. This MI is for a researched ALDERSON family from Romaldkirk as you indicate.

Henry's details take us back into the 1680s. Isn't it amazing we can get so far back and know who these people were.

Susan: Monumental inscriptions

Thank you Albert and KCMitchell for your input. I find it fascinating to see tangible evidence like old records and gravestones, and it's lovely to see old churches where relatives were baptised, married and buried. In another branch of my family, traced back to 16th century,I had planned to visit a thousand year old Abbey connected with the family for centuries, and it was destroyed by a fire set by vandals just last month, which I found quite devastating. So I'm determined now to visit as many family churches as possible, before it's too late! (with camera of course)

                                   

AnnieD: WWI Roll of Honour Cyril Laverack Alderson and Family

Dear Group
I am new to this Forum. My eye was caught by the above poignant listing as Cyril Laverack Alderson and his parents are part of my maternal Laverack family tree which I have been researching for some time. I would be most interested to hear from anybody who has a connection or knowledge of this Alderson family.
Kind Regards,
Ann, Blue Mountains NSW Australia

Albert Alderson: WWI Roll of Honour Cyril Laverack Alderson and Family

Hi Ann,

Always nice to have visitors from Australia.

I am Albert ALDERSON and I did the research for our WW1 roll of honour and can give you some details fo the family. I found these recent records using ancestry.co.uk:

Marriage registration
John Edwin Alderson 1896 Jul-Aug-Sep 9b 1021 Leeds (1837-1929) Yorkshire - West Riding
Hester Ann Laverack 1896 Jul-Aug-Sep 9b 1021 Leeds (1837-1929) Yorkshire - West Riding


Birth registrations
Cyril Laverack Alderson 1897 Oct-Nov-Dec Leeds (1837-1929) Yorkshire - West
Laurence Alfred Alderson 1900 Apr-May-Jun Leeds (1837-1929) Yorkshire - West Riding


1901 census – 39 Arthur Terrace, Headingley cum Burley, Yorkshire
John E Alderson abt 1868 Cowion Hall, Yorkshire, England Head Insurance superintendant
Hester A Alderson abt 1871 Leeds, Yorkshire, England Wife
Cyril Alderson abt 1898 Leeds, Yorkshire, England Son
Lawrence Alderson abt 1900 Leeds, Yorkshire, England Son
Ada Sutcliffe Abt 1880 Leeds, Yorkshire, England General domestic servant


I also retrieved the following on Hester's family:

Birth registrations
Hester Ann Laverack 1871 Jan-Feb-Mar Leeds (1837-1929) Yorkshire - West
Grace Lilian Laverack 1872 Oct-Nov-Dec Leeds (1837-1929) Yorkshire - West Riding
Charles Herbert Laverack 1874 Oct-Nov-Dec Leeds (1837-1929) Yorkshire - West
Ernest Clyde Laverack 1877 Jan-Feb-Mar Leeds (1837-1929) Yorkshire - West


1891 census – 37 Albert Terrace, Headingley with Burley, Yorkshire
Alfred Laverack abt 1829 South Cave, Yorkshire, England Head evangelist
Mary Laverack abt 1836 Howden Barmby, Yorkshire, England Wife
Hester Ann Laverack abt 1871 Leeds, Yorkshire, England Daughter School teacher
Grace Lilian Laverack abt 1873 Leeds, Yorkshire, England Daughter
Chas Herbert Laverack abt 1875 Leeds, Yorkshire, England Son draper
Ernest Clyde Laverack abt 1877 Leeds, Yorkshire, England Son clothier

We can only give details of ALDERSON ancestry to members of the ALDERSON Family History Society. Our website gives details of how to join.

As you are a long way away from records in AUS, if you need any look-ups on LAVERACKs, email me at webmaster@afhs.org and I will see if I can help personally.

If you can tell us anything about the ALDERSON connection we would love to hear from you.

AnnieD: WWI Roll of Honour Cyril Laverack Alderson and Family

Dear Albert
Thank you so much for your reply and offer of help It is very kind of you and I was surprised as to how much detail you had on Hester Ann's family. Rather than take up time here I will email you directly with more information and you can decide whether it is directly relevant for adding to your resources.
Kindest Regards, Ann

                                   

Sylvia: Alderson of Reeth

I have got to a point were I cant find any other info about the alderson side of the family so hoping someone on here may have some info

All I know is that mary Elizabeth alderson married a john Cherry in reeth about 1910 they went on to have children elsie 1913 marjory 1910 simon 1918 Ronald 1923
this is all the info i can find I know they lived in Reeth and that elsie married a Gibson and stayed in Reeth simon also married a freda and stayed in Reeth

So any further help on this line would be appreciated

Albert Alderson: Alderson of Reeth

Hi Sylvia,

Mary Elizabeth would seem to be the daughter of Ralph & Rosa Ann of Keld. She was born 25 Nov 1887.

I have that she married Simon CHERRY (not John) but I could be wrong.

The ancestry of Mary Elizabeth's family can be traced back to at least 1699 on the male side. Female ALDERSONs also married into this line.

                                   

Janice: Thomas Alderson, New Hall Farm, Bishopswearmouth

My paternal great great grandparents were Thomas and Mary (nee Fawell) Alderson, their daughter Alice married James Farley. They also had three other daughters, Ann born approx 1831, Margaret born approx 1833, and Mary born approx 1841, and one brother Walton born approx 1839. Alice was born 19th November 1842.

I have been able to trace my Alice without any problem and have lots of info, but what happened to the rest of the family? After the death of Thomas Dec 1880 Ann's husband took over the farm but I haven't been able to find any descendants and of course the farm has long since disappeared under a housing estate.

Any info about the farm would be useful - was he a tenant farmer? I presume so, but his tomb stone looks pretty expensive and impressive, I have a copy of his will but would like to know more.

Hazel Husthwaite: Thomas Alderson, New Hall Farm, Bishopswearmouth

Hi Janice

I can't help with info on the farm but I wonder if you have reason to think they may have emigrated, in which case let me have the details and I will search the Canadian and US censuses for you

 

Albert Alderson: Thomas Alderson, New Hall Farm, Bishopswearmouth

Hi Janice and everyone else with an interest in this family,

For the record so that readers other than Janice know what is going on, I have been writing to Janice directly as I was not sure whether she was an AFHS member - she is.

Christine Martin has done extensive work on this family and I have helped her a bit. I am bringing Janice up-to-date with the details that I found. I believe that Ann of Grinton was the daughter of John ALDERSON and Esther BROCKHILL of Bedale, NRY.

Janice - Can you let me know the details of the will that you mention?

                                   

Karen: Help, am stuck at 1851

Hi everyone, I've hit a brick wall. My last known ancestor, Frederick John was bap. 23.5.1851, married Ann Neal 13.10.1870, died 14.2.1902. Would love to know a) his parents names and, b) if he had any siblings. He was baptised at St Giles, Middlesex according to the 1888 census.

Hope someone can help, thanks.

Albert Alderson: Help, am stuck at 1851

Hi Karen,

This seems relevant:

1861 census – 16 Sidney Street, St Pancras, Middlesex

Emma L Alderson abt 1833 Pancras, Middlesex, England Head hawker marr
Frederick J Alderson abt 1852 Pancras, Middlesex, England Son
Mary A Stedman abt 1844 Pancras, Middlesex, England Visitor

The GRO index for the marriage of Frederick John ALDERSON and Anne NEAL is Marylebone RD 1a 742. The marriage certificate should gives his parents names.

Karen: Help, am stuck at 1851

Thanks Albert, I've already got Frederick & Mary Ann's MC and it gives Fred's father's name as Frederick also. Its the elder Fred I'm having problems with. I can't seem to find any trace of him. Any ideas as to where to look next? I'm visiting my parents in Richmond, Surrey in a couple of weeks time and am planning a whole day at TNA (got my sandwiches and sleeping bag)! Have you any ideas what areas/resources to look at whilst I'm there? I dont want to waste the day.

Thanks for any help you're able to give.
Karen

Albert Alderson: Help, am stuck at 1851

Frederick the father does seem rather elusive. I can't find a marriage registration for him. The isn't at home in the 1861 census. Emma Louise, who seems to have been his wife, remarries in 1879, but I haven't come across a suitable death registration yet.

Perhaps he was a mariner or a soldier (or in an institution of some kind). Perhaps Frederick and Emma Louise married abroad.

Does the wedding certificate for Frederick John give his father's occupation?

I will plod on to see if I can find a possible death registration.

Karen: Help, am stuck at 1851

Frederick John's father's occupation on MC is glazier. I had a look on IGI and found a Frederick John Alderson DOB 11.10.1827, parents Henry & Mary. Might this be my Fred do you think?

Albert Alderson: Help, am stuck at 1851

It seems that Frederick's father was called Thomas Frederick ALDERSON and his mother was Emma Louise. Thomas Frederick was a carman and lived in Fitzroy Place. Frederick John was baptised 14th June 1851 St Pancras Old Church Middlesex.

I will see what else I can dig up

Karen: Help, am stuck at 1851

Wow thanks! How do you find this stuff so quickly? I'm very impressed.

regards, Karen

Albert Alderson: Help, am stuck at 1851

My real name is Puck and I circle the earth quicker than I can remember my Shakespeare!

You might like to consider:

Marriage Registration (GRO)
Q3 1850
Frederick Thomas Alderson Kensingon RD 3. 382

Also, if we assume the 'normal' marriage age of 21, then F.T. would have been born about 1829. In that case you might like to follow up:

1841 census - St Pancras, Middlesex

Henry Alderson abt 1801 Middlesex
Mary Alderson abt 1801 Middlesex
Alfred Alderson abt 1828 Middlesex
Frederick Alderson abt 1829 Middlesex
Edgar Alderson abt 1834 Middlesex
Mary Carpenter abt 1776 Middlesex

Guessing wildly (what I do best) Frederick is your F.T. (or T.F.) with parents Hanry and Mary. Guessing a bit more Mary CARPENTER is Mary ALDERSON's mum. Perhaps there is a wedding of Henry ALDERSON and Mary CARPENTER between 1822 and 1828.

I will keep on following the trail.

Isn't this fun?

Albert Alderson: Help, am stuck at 1851

You might like to consider the marriage:

Henry ALDERSON married Mary ROBINS (or ROBENS)
1820 Bloomsbury London

Parish register not GRO unfortunately

                                   

Pauline Dodd: Isabella Annie ALDERSON

My great grandmother was Isabella Annie ALDERSON Born DORES, Scotland 1869. Her twin Brother George Atkinson Fraser ALDERSON I am still searching for. He was sent to an orphanage and I have lost him.

My family line goes back to John of Keld Alderson.

                                   

Glenn Frederick Alderson: Edward Alderson

Hi to all,

Edward Alderson who was Killed in Action 4-May-1918 is my great uncle I have just received his war medals. just wondering if any body has any information on him. I would also like any information on my grandfathers family.
my grandfather was Frederick Alderson born 1909 he married Rose Esther Spruce? they had John Edward,Mary and my father Paul Thomas they all migrated to Australia in the 1950's from Ruislip.

Albert Alderson: Edward Alderson

Hi Glenn,

The details I have of Edward are on the AFHS website - navigate to Roll of Honour and scroll down to Edward's record. The records are in alphabetical order. As you can see we don't know a great deal about him. I couldn't find out which action he died in.

Can you tell me what medals Edward was awarded so that I can add them to the Roll of Honour?

                                   

El-Neilios: Would love to know my roots

Hi, I am an Alderson and I would love to research further into my roots. Unfortunately I have never had much opportunity to enquire about my past with my Grandparents and only know a few vague facts about the family. If I give you my name and details would it be possible for you to check if your database could help me?

My name is Neil Edward Alderson, born 13/04/84 in Bath, England. My parents are Linda Rosemary Alderson and Christopher John Alderson.

Albert Alderson: Would love to know my roots

Hi Neil,

A quick look says you have a brother Craig James ALDERSON, also born in Bath. You mother's surname was CARNE. Is that correct?

You would be surprised how many Christopher John ALDERSONs there are. Are you able to give a date of birth for your father? Do you know the names of your grandparents? We need to try to link your family up to earlier generations. The more detail you can give the better our chances.

El-Neilios: Would love to know my roots

Yes that's exactly right. My father was born 05/04/1954 in Eltam. Since the last post I have been successful in digging up a good amount of family history. My grandparents are John (known as Jack) Edward Alderson and Sheila Alderson (maiden name Delf). I have in my possession the war memoirs and other military documents of John Edward Alderson's father, Horace John Alderson. He was married to Rhoda Frances Alderson (maiden name King) and its the King family that we believe have Romany Gypsy roots. I also discovered that Horace John Alderson's father was Horatio Alderson. So far that takes me back to around 1870.

Albert Alderson: Would love to know my roots

Wow! Impressive progress in such a short time. You still have a few steps yet back to the AFHS earliest record of your line - the marriage of John ALDERSON & Honour KEMP married in Norwich St Andrew NFK on 17 Feb 1778. We can fill in the detail of your line and other descendants of John and Honour if you would like to join the AFHS (see details on the website).

Looking forward to your next instalment. What did Horace do in the military?

 

                                   

Avril: Robert A Alderson and Marjorie Lindsay b. 1923, York

I am looking for anyone who is a descendant of the above.

Albert Alderson: Robert A Alderson and Marjorie Lindsay b. 1923, York

Thanks for telling us Ms. Lindsay's forename. It isn't in the AFHS database. I can see no obvious children of Robert and Marjorie, but that is probably because of lack of information to link them up.

Do you know anything more about Robert A ALDERSON? What does the A stand for? Who were his parents? Do you know his exact date of birth? When you say 'York', do you mean the city or the county?

Avril: Robert A Alderson and Marjorie Lindsay b. 1923, York

I have found that Robert A Alderson was born in 1917. and the birth was registered in Dewsbury; Yorkshire

His father was George E. Alderson he married Elizabeth Audsley in 1915 - the marriage was registered in North Bierley - which I think is in Leeds; Yorks

Thats all I know at the moment

Albert Alderson: Robert A Alderson and Marjorie Lindsay b. 1923, York

Hi Avril,

That helps!

The AFHS currently has his ancestry back to the 1790s in Midgeley, WRY. There are clues that might help take it back further.

His father was George Ewart ALDERSON.

Are you a member of the AFHS? If so you can get a full history of this family?

For the moment I can tell you that Robert A had a brother Bernard.

A further look at the data suggests we can take Robert's ancestry back to the 1680s around the Halifax area.

Are you related to Robert A?

Avril: Robert A Alderson and Marjorie Lindsay b. 1923, York

Thanks for your prompt response

Robert A Alderson married Marjorie Lindsay in 1942 registered in Spen Valley- Majorie was born in York; Yorkshire in 1923 - she is my mothers cousin - so Roberts and Marjories offspring are my 2nd Cousins.

I am having great difficulty finding any of my mothers cousins as she lost contact in the 1930's and then after the war - so I am trying to find any second cousins I have to fill in the gaps - unfortunately I am coming up against dead ends all the time.

                                   

Shirley: Edward Alderson b 1810

Can someone 'sort me' out with these Edwards?
I have a 1C4R Edward Alderson born 1810 (s/o Edward Alderson and Jane Preston) married Jane Clarkson
But there is another Edward Alderson married Ann Alderson and her mother was Jane ?(1851 census Muker) Who are this family
HELP!!!!!
Shirley

Albert Alderson: Edward Alderson b 1810

Hi up our Shirl,

We don't all speak Lancastrian dialect.

What meaneth thou by '1C4R Edward'. Doth thou meanest: 'I see for our Edward'? Why, has he lost his spectacles?

Tis most surely a quotation from the Bard's Omlette: 'At last! Pour Jorricks. I knew his dad. A man of infinite ancestry'.

Or perhaps it is from Alfa and Romero. Nay t'wouldst be: 'Y4Rt thou Edward' (Or was it more important to be Ernest? Don't be silly that's a Wilde suggestion).

Seriously though, what does it mean? First cousin fourth removed?

I never have understood, the idea of second, third, fourth, etc. removed. Can anyone explain?

Shirley: Edward Alderson b 1810

Hello Albert
Have you been on the Christmas Spirit?

Edward Alderson is my 1C4R = First Cousin Four Times Removed
Shirley

Albert Alderson: Edward Alderson b 1810

I never touch spirits. My hands go straight through them.

I must admit to the odd half bottle of Aussie white.

Thanks for the translation.

Where was this cousin removed to (or from)?

Edward Alderson and Jane Preston had a son called Edward, who married Ann Alderson daughter of John and Ann of Keld.

Shirley: Edward Alderson b 1810

Thank you Albert
Then who was the Edward Alderson who married Jane Clarkson 12/10/1833?

                                   

Philip J Alderson: Herbert Frederick Alderson

Any information regarding Herbert Frederick Alderson born Doncaster
24 7 1876 married Grace Otter Houghton 22 9 1895 in Doncaster. I know little about him, his son Herbert Alfred Alderson (my grandfather) left Doncaster to go to the First World War and did not return there after his discharge

Albert Alderson: Herbert Frederick Alderson

There are about 8 ancestor generations of Herbert Frederick in the AFHS database. Do you know about any of these?

Has Herbert Frederick been found in the 1901 census. Grace (as head) and the children are there. I wonder where HF was. I noticed that the AFHS database entry for his marriage is as Frederick not HF. I thought he might be in the 1901 census as Frederick but found no entry that seemed to match. Indeed there is no record of HF between the birth of Robert Henry in 1898 and the birth of Elsie May in 1906.

Was he in the Armed Forces? Was he in some 'institution'?

 

Philip J Alderson: Herbert Frederick Alderson

Herbert Frederick is on the 1901 census originally he was down as Herbert Falderson although this has now been corrected, he lives at 8 Milners Yard Doncaster in the home of Ann Dickson who runs a boarding house, Herbert occupation is given as Threshing Machine Labourer. I know Grace threw him out from time to time but he obviously kept going back.

Albert Alderson: Herbert Frederick Alderson

Well she let him back long enough for Elsie May to appear. Do you think she threw him out for 5 or 6 years?

Philip J Alderson: Herbert Frederick Alderson

It seems to have been a strange relationship all together and yet every birth certificate i look at has Herbert or Frederick as he called himself as the Father. I have one for Mary Alderson born 5 1 1914 at 23 Duke Street Doncaster mother Grace father Frederick I think that Mary was the only daughter to survive. According to my mother she used to visit my Grandfather a lot in the 1930,s , she married a bloke called Hugh I don't know his second name he came from Wath. Mary was the only relation of my grandfathers I ever met, after Grace died in 1917 I am sure Herbert Frederick remarried as my Grandfather used to mention his stepsisters from time to time but as to who he married I have not a clue ...regards Phil